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QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST

 
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QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD
456 AM EST TUE NOV 24 2009


FINAL DAY 1...DAY 2 AND DAY 3 QPF DISCUSSION
VALID NOV 24/1200 UTC THRU NOV 27/1200 UTC
REFERENCE AWIPS GRAPHICS UNDER...PRECIP ACCUM - 24HR


DAY 1...

06Z UPDATE...
RELATIVELY MINOR CHANGES FROM PRELIMS..MOST BASED ON SATL/RADAR
TRENDS.

...CNTRL U.S...

MODELS REMAIN RATHER SIMILAR IN HANDLING OF EVOLVING CLOSED LOW
OVER ERN KS THAT WILL LIFT NEWD TOWARD SRN LAKE MI AREA BY WED
MORNING AS COLD UPSTREAM TROF DIGS SEWD ACRS THE NRN PLAINS. THIS
SYSTEM IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN CUT OFF FROM THE MUCH DEEPER MSTR
STILL LOCKED IN ACRS THE GULF COAST REGION..BUT MID/UPR FORCING
SHOULD COMPENSATE FOR THE LOWER MSTR TO SUPPORT A BAND OF GREATER
THAN .50 LIQUID AMOUNTS PREDOMINANTLY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE
MID/UPR LEVEL CIRC IN AREA OF PRONOUNCED 85H-7H MSTR FLUX
CONVERGENCE. GENLY TOOK BLEND OF NAM/GFS/GFSP GIVEN VERY SIMILAR
MASS FIELD SOLNS.

...TX GULF COASTAL REGION...

CDFNT DROPPING SEWD INTO THIS REGION BY TUES MORNING SHOULD AID
DVLPMENT OF SHWRS AS FRONTAL LIFT ENCOUNTERS DEEPER MSTR BUILDING
NEAR THE S TX COAST. COULD SEE A QUICK .50 INCH ACRS EXTREME S TX
EARLY IN THE PD BEFORE DRIER AIR BUILDS SWD ACRS THE REGION DURING
THE AFTN. OPTED TO GO WITH SLIGHTLY WETTER GFS/12Z ECMWF SOLN.

...FL...

QUITE A FEW DIFFERENCES HERE WITH WHERE AND HOW QUICKLY SHWRS DVLP
ALONG OLD FRONTAL BNDRY ACRS THE CNTL GULF AND MOVE TOWARD THE FL
PENINSULA IN RESPONSE TO S/WV ENERGY LIFTING NEWD ACRS THE GULF.
ALL MODELS SHOW QUITE A BIT OF CONVECTION DVLPG ACRS THE GULF
ESPECIALLY TUES NIGHT..AND CONSEQUENTLY SOME PROBLEMS WITH
GRIDSCALE FEEDBACK ISSUES APPEAR TO DVLP..ESPECIALLY IN THE GFS.
THE NAM AT THIS POINT APPEARS TO BE COURSE OF LEAST REGRET AND
FOCUSES SOME MDT RAINS ACRS NRN FL IN AXIS OF DEEPER MSTR
FLUX..THOUGH CONFIDENCE IS NOT PARTICULAR HIGH.

...MID ATLC/NE...

REMNANTS OF S/WV ENERGY LIFTING ACRS THE MID ATLC REGION WILL
QUICKLY EXIT THE COAST EARLY IN THE PD..LEAVING BEHIND RESIDUAL
MOIST LOW LEVEL ELY FLOW THRU MUCH OF THE REGION. GENLY VERY
LIGHT RAINS OR DRIZZLE IS EXPECTED WITH PCPN MOST AREAS LESS THAN
.10 INCH.

...PAC NW...
POWERFUL ERN PAC STORM SYSTEM WILL CONTINUE TO LIFT NEWD INTO THE
GULF OF AK THIS PD DRAGGING ASSOCD COLD FRONT TOWARD B.C. HEAVY
RAINS SHOULD STAY NORTH OF THE WA BORDER..WHILE REMAINS OF WEAK
FRONT ACRS THE AREA WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT SOME LIGHTER SHWRS
THRU THE DAY TUES ACRS MOSTLY WRN WA.


DAYS 2/3...

...PAC NORTHWEST...

THE MODELS STILL AGREE THAT A POTENT SYS WILL BE MAKING ITS WAY
FROM THE ERN NOPAC INTO THE PAC NW ON DAYS 2 AND 3...WITH THE
MODELS IN DISTINCT TWO CAMPS WITH RESPECT TO THE DETAILS. THE
24/00Z GFS AND NAM BOTH BROUGHT A WEAKER SYSTEM INLAND WHILE THE
ECMWF OFFERED A DEEPER/SLOWER SOLN. EN COMPARED WITH PREVIOUS
RUNS WHILE THE ECMWF KEPT REASONABLE CONTINUITY WITH A
SLOWER/DEEPER SYSTEM. WE OPTED TO WEIGHT THE FORECAST MORE
HEAVILY TOWARDS THE ECMWF...BUT GIVEN A LACK OF ANY CLEAR SIGNAL
WE INCORPORATED SREF/GFS/NAM TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE UNCERTAINTY.
REGARDLESS OF WHICH SOLN VERIFIES...THE PERSISTENT/STRONG MSTR
FETCH SHOULD WILL FOSTER 2-3 INCH AMTS IN THE WA COASTAL RANGE AND
CASCADES...AND AN INCH IN THE LWR ELEVATIONS OF WRN WA.

...UPR TO MID MS VLY INTO THE OH VLY AND GTLKS REGION...

A STACKED AREA OF LOW PRESSURE IS EXPECTED TO LIFT ACROSS THE MID
MS VLY TOWARD THE GRT LAKES...WHILE AT THE SAME TIME A DIGGING NRN
STREAM UPPER TROUGH CARVES IN BEHIND TO CLOSE OFF ANOTHER LOW OVER
LAKE MI TWD THE END OF DAY 3. PRECIPITATION SHOULD BE ONGOING AT
THE START OF THE PERIOD IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE COMA HEAD/DYNAMIC
COOLING QPF EXPECTED ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE STAKED LOW AND WAA
PRECIP AHEAD OF THE UPPER TROUGH...BASICALLY FROM ERN MN/NE IA
THROUGH WI/MI AND NRN IN/IL. THE SPREAD IN THE 00Z MODEL
PRODUCTION CYCLE WAS NOT AS GREAT AS IN THE PAST SEVERAL DAYS
WORTH OF RUNS...BUT THERE IS STILL ENOUGH THAT A BLEND OF THE
ECMWF/SREF WAS USED...WITH SOMEWHAT GREATER WEIGHT GIVEN TO THE
ECMWF DUE TO ITS CONSISTENCY.

...SOUTHEAST COAST/FLORIDA...

A WEAKENING COLD FRONT WILL SAG SOUTHWARD THROUGH THE FL PENINSULA
ON DAY 2...HELPING TO PUSH SCATTERED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS
FURTHER SOUTH WHILE DRIER AIR FILTERING IN FROM THE NORTH BRINGS
AN END TO THE PCPN. ALONG THE SOUTHEAS COAST...THE MODELS STILL
HAVE A PERIOD WHEN MSTR WILL MOVE ONSHORE AND TRIGGER PRECIP
ALONG/NEAR THE ATLANTIC COAST MAINLY ON DAY 2. HPC FOLLOWED THE
23/12Z ECMWF AS WELL AS THE 24/00Z GEM/ECMWF.

SULLIVAN/BANN

GRAPHICS AVAILABLE ON THE WEB AT WWW.HPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV
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454918
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496264


24HR QP VT 27/12Z
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450661
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0.25 421801 420799 419798 416796 415796 413796 410798 409803
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497214 491210 488210 485213 481217 475223 469227 463229
457232 449233 443236 437234 432231 426232 413235 410238
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447246 448250 449259 452263 456265 469260 475259 480264
482270 481277 477288 474296 473299 475304 479304 482303
488297 494287 499279
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459237 456240 456247 458252 464253 467253 473250 476247
480244 483240
1.00 422242 422238 419238 416240 418242 421242 422242
1.50 473241 472237 470237 466238 464238 463240 462242 462246
465247 468246 471245 471244 473241







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